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Comments on This blog's a-rockin', February 3rd, 2006:
Tokyo Tom:
Japanese have tough earthquake codes for new buildings...

GaijinBiker:
Of course, TT, if you've followed the Aneha scandal at all, you know that those tough codes were completely ignored in several cases that we know of. There's no telling how many similarly unscrupulous builders never got caught...

The Mainichi Shimbun, February 8th, 2006:
An architectural office in Fukuoka Prefecture has come under suspicion of falsifying structural data for three condominium blocks, the local government said Wednesday.

The Fukuoka Municipal Government is investigating three condominium blocks designed by architectural firm "Something," based in Dazaifu, Fukuoka Prefecture, on suspicion that the buildings' earthquake resistance data was falsified.

It is the first time that a party other than disgraced former architect Hidetsugu Aneha has come under suspicion for falsifying earthquake-resistance data.
TokyoTom:
The main risk of cheating on earthquake appears to me condos/apartment blocks. That's not me, so I'm not sweating that issue, fortunately.

Do you think there is a similar risk on newer commercial buildings?

Earthquakes will always be topical here, so I expect to hear more. I have not followed the Aneha scandal to know how it broke, but in the States there would by now be many prosecutors and lawyers in on the act. Any insights on this, GB?
2.8.2006 5:12pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
I haven't dug into the scandal very much. Sean has some good posts on it here.
2.8.2006 5:18pm
Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
The answer to the question about commercial buildings is that the Aneha scandal involved quite a few hotels; they've all been closed, to my knowledge. Another thing to bear in mind is that the three buildings that have just been discovered in Kyushu were also built by Kimura Construction, the Kumamoto firm that went belly up because so many Aneha-poisoned buildings had been its projects. The most reasonable hope is that we'll find that there are a very small number of construction firms that were looking for easily-persuaded architects to contract out their structural calculations to.
2.8.2006 6:34pm
Sean Kinsell (mail) (www):
(Oh, and thanks for the link, GB.)
2.8.2006 6:35pm
TokyoTom:
But Sean, can you tell us more about how the Aneha story broke, and if there are incentives in Japan similar to those in the US, from prosecutors, lawyers, consumer action groups etc.?
2.8.2006 7:41pm
langtry (mail):
"But Sean, can you tell us more about how the Aneha story broke, and if there are incentives in Japan similar to those in the US, from prosecutors, lawyers, consumer action groups etc.?"
Each of those incentives you mention have their own coercive power. Bearing that in mind, I always thought the most powerfull incentive against shirking earthquake codes were the pictures of Kobe's devastation.

I would have thought that lesson invaluable.
2.8.2006 11:26pm
TokyoTom:
Langtry, earthquakes are effective at raising levels of concern, but don't always solve the problems of perverse incentives to builders/owners to maximize profits by cutting costs, inadequate information available to tenants, and potentially inadequate pressures from others to ensure that rules are enforced.

Sean, any further thoughts on the incentives in Japan?
2.9.2006 1:15pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
TT, if people have thoughts they feel like posting, they will post them.
2.9.2006 2:03pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
Sorry if that sounded harsh, TT. But bear in mind that when you ask someone if they have "any thoughts" on a complicated, open-ended issue, you're in effect asking them to write a whole essay just for you.

First, you asked me for "insights". I offered a link to Sean's voluminous writing on the subject. And Sean himself came by and was kind enough to actually write a direct response to your question.

But instead of thanking him, you asked him for more — not just once, but twice.

You sound like you think Sean should feel obligated to write about a subject of your choosing until you're fully satisfied with his response. That strikes me as a little presumptuous.

I do ask people for advice and input from time to time, but I'm always aware that I'm essentially asking them to do me a favor.
2.9.2006 3:11pm
TokyoTom:
GB, you misinterpret me. I asked you this question: "I have not followed the Aneha scandal to know how it broke, but in the States there would by now be many prosecutors and lawyers in on the act. Any insights on this, GB?"

You demurred, but provided a link to Sean. He kindly posted here, but partially responded to a different question - whether any commercial buldings were involved. I looked at his website but didn't see anything on the incentives issue, and since he had so kindly visited here thought it was kosher to ask him my principal question, as he had already joined our party here. (I see I did neglect to thank Sean for his partial response - you are right on that - thank you, Sean.) But my main question was complete missed, and not answered.

Sounds like you would have preferred that I take the whole question offline to Sean, but I fail to understand why - are you trying to send discussions to other blogs?

I think it was perfectly fair to repeat my question, but you do have a point about the third time - Sean might simply not have had a chance to come back, or might have no views to give. But my intention was not to hector - it's not like I've chased you around for all the questions I ask you that you decline to directly address. I know you've got a blog to run, not to mention a job!

But from your side it seems I committed a whole litany of sins, starting with being so rash as to ask you for your "insights" - strange that that would irk you, as it indicates a respect for your experience and opinion.

Count me confused on blogging manners.

To me this comes out of the blue, so I wonder what's really going on. I won't ask a question, but I begin to wonder if you'd be happier if I stopped visiting regularly.
2.9.2006 6:23pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
No, I want you to keep visiting, TT! Otherwise, how would I get new material for these "Blogging the future" posts? You're in the latest one, too.

I appreciate your comments, and you are definitely welcome to keep posting them.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but sometimes, when you ask people to share their thoughts, it really does seem like you're handing out homework assignments. Then again, as a blogger who already doesn't have enough time to write about all the things I would like to, I am probably hypersenstive to people making demands on my time.
2.9.2006 6:53pm
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