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NEW YORK (Rooters) Popular political comedian Steven Colbert, who delivered a biting critique of President Bush at April's White House Correspondents Dinner, has been seized by US government agents.

Colbert's last major public appearance was at the White House Correspondents Dinner on Saturday, April 29, where he had been invited to "roast" President Bush. Colbert's comedic monologue was harshly critical of the President.

Repercussions were swift, as a team of CIA agents, backed by heavily-armed special forces operatives, surrounded the set of Mr. Colbert's Comedy Central TV show, "The Colbert Report", on Friday. Citing multiple violations of the Patriot Act, the agents shut down taping of the Colbert Report indefinitely, and hustled Colbert himself outside into a waiting black sedan. He has not been seen or heard from since.

According to a highly-placed State Department source, Mr. Colbert is believed to have been rendered to Uzbekistan, where President Islam Karimov may be holding him in a secret prison designed for the systematic torture of dissidents.

Comedy Central President Doug Herzog called the seizure of Colbert "shocking, but understandable."

"No one is a bigger fan of Steven than I am," Herzog said at a press conference earlier this morning. "But seriously, what was he thinking? This is America. If you mock the President, there are obviously going to be consequences."

Fellow political satirist John Stewart says he warned Colbert about going ahead with such risky material.

"I told him to play it safe," said Stewart, who worked with Colbert on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show". But Steven just wouldn't listen. He had to do it his way. And now, he's paying the price."

Recently-appointed White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said there were no immediate plans to release Colbert.

"Mr. Colbert has quite clearly indicated that he is not with us," Mr. Snow said at yesterday's press briefing. "He is with the terrorists. And as long as this nation remains at war, we cannot afford to have him disseminating so-called 'comedy' that, quite frankly, plays right into the hands of this nation's enemies."

Snow also said there was no connection between the seizure of Colbert and the unexplained absence of White House press corps reporters Helen Thomas and Dick Gregory. Neither Thomas nor Gregory has been heard from since Friday afternoon.
Posted by GaijinBiker on 05.14.2006 at 12:48am
Topics: Movies & TV, Politics, Rooters, USA
TokyoTom (mail):
Clever, but what`s the point? That those worried about our domestic liberty or good name abroad can be made light of, because the WH doesn`t throw comedians or the press in jail?

I think the concerns are far too real, close to home important to mock, but if this makes you feel good, whatever.
5.14.2006 4:14pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
if this makes you feel good, whatever
That’s how I feel about a lot of your comments. Are you deliberately trying to miss the point here?

Colbert was invited to roast the President, and he did. He does not deserve to be placed in the pantheon of Champions of Freedom alongside Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and the Tiananmen Square tank guy. But you wouldn't know that from reading some of the liberal blogs' praise of his roast.
5.14.2006 7:03pm
TokyoTom (mail):
GB, sometimes I am dense; I admit - that`s why your post puzzled me. Colbert was invited to speak, certainly at no risk to his personal freedom. Is that all your point is? That not only did he muf the job by not being funny, that he is no hero?

If so, it seems to me that your spoof is in poor taste because it makes light of very serious background matters that I alluded to in my comment (I could care less about Colbert) - we DO have a rendition program, the President still claims authority to whisk Americans abroad to Gitmo without trial as "unlawful combatants", the CIA is being gutted and replaced by the military agency NSA which is engaged in intrusive domestic spying, our press is being targeted by the administration for exposing the rendition and NSA stories, the President holds himself to be above the law, the Congressional Reublicans block any meaningful inquiries, etc.

Frank Rich hits the nail on the head in his last NYT piece, some excerts here:
What really angers the White House and its defenders about both the Post and Times scoops are not the legal questions the stories raise about unregulated gulags and unconstitutional domestic snooping, but the unmasking of yet more administration failures in a war effort riddled with ineptitude," Rich writes.

"It's the recklessness at the top of our government, not the press' exposure of it, that has truly aided the enemy, put American lives at risk and potentially sabotaged national security," Rich continues. "That's where the buck stops, and if there's to be a witch hunt for traitors, that's where it should begin."


Also here.

Sorry, but I just don`t get you - I would think that as a conservative some of things would actually CONCERN you.

Whom exactly would you put in the pantheon as a Champion of Freedom - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales?

I agree that since 9/11 all we have seen are many small men, inside and out of the Administration, including in both houses of Congress and the press, with no one willing to dissent in a manner that makes a difference. Remember the Goering quote about how easy it is to create a repressive regime?
5.14.2006 10:00pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
Lots of things concern me. However, this particular post is not about them. It is about a specific topic: Does a comedian who "roasts" President Bush deserve to be hailed as a gutsy champion of freedom? I say no, since he was simply doing what he had been invited to do, at zero risk to himself.

This post doesn't have anything to do with the question of whether Colbert's roast was funny. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with whether Bush or any members of his administration are themselves champions of freedom (although many Iraqis were indeed quite happy that Bush freed them from Saddam's despotism).

Even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that Bush is a terrible president who is destroying our liberties and spreading misery around the word, the point of my post remains unchanged: Criticizing the American President in a comedic roast does not require anything like the guts, selflessness, and heroism we rightly associate with people who have stood up against actual oppresive regimes at great risk to their own well-being.

Thus, the points you raise, as is so often the case, are simply irrelevant to the post you're commenting on.
5.14.2006 10:22pm
TokyoTom (mail):
Ah, the staying on thread issue. Thanks for gently reminding me of the irrelevancy of my broader concerns about the state of civil liberties and America`s reputation (the backgrop to your spoof) to your more focussed wail about the over-reaction to some over Colbert.

Hopefully someday you`ll be interested in a sincere discussion about the state of the union and our future. For now, keep bashing the Bush-bashers!
5.15.2006 1:05am
Poole:
Satire is lost on dogs and most liberals.
5.15.2006 6:58am
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
TT, you remind me of a born-again Christian who always tries to bring every conversation around to whether the other person has accepted Jesus as his personal lord and savior. What could be more important than that? And yet, people don't want to talk about it all the time. Go figure.
5.15.2006 9:12am
TokyoTom (mail):
Man, you`re a master of denial and totally conflicted.

Tell me again that this bit of "satire" doesn`t broach more serious issues about rendition and domestic Constitutional rights?

Here I thought I was commenting on points on which your piece was an invitation to discuss. I`ll have to keep reminding myself to read you more shallowly.

Sorry if I rained on your parade.
5.15.2006 10:29am
TokyoTom (mail):
Poole, I guess you haven`t figured out that I`m not a liberal. But do you really think that GB and Bush are conservatives?
5.15.2006 10:32am
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
I think we can all agree that whatever our opinion on rendition may be, Colbert was not at risk of it himself.

Let's remember that in the very first comment on this post, you asked me what my point was. Since then, I've been trying to explain it to you, which, I have gradually come to realize, is a fruitless endeavor.
5.15.2006 10:34am
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
Meanwhile the lovely open thread I created, at your suggestion, sits unused by you. Why? Are you only happy when you're changing the subject?
5.15.2006 10:58am
Big Ben (mail) (www):
My problem with the post is kinda different from TT's. I had to read the comments to figure out what exactly you were making fun of, because the post is ridicuing a position I haven't seen anyone take.

No one (that I've heard or read) is saying that Colbert is a "Champion of Freedom" or that he was risking detention or anything. If you can find a post where someone is saying such things, I'll gladly join you in laughing at them.

The posts I've seen rightly laud Cobert's guts for not playing the toothless part he was called upon to play. You think it doesn't take guts to go against firmly established protocol, and get up in front of an audience of powerful people and intentionally antagonize them?

No, he wasn't risking physical harm or incarceration, and your satrire brilliantly skewered the multitude of strawlefties who wer e claiming he was.
5.15.2006 1:11pm
TokyoTom (mail):
GB, I'm only happy when I'm not, so give up on that.

I understand that Colbert was not at risk of rendition - that's apparent, so I was guessing you were making a subtler point - that Colbert should not be lionized because what he did was not truly risky. Fine, but that point doesn't really undermine the points he was making, which I think you were also implicitly trying to do.

I have another comment which I will make here as it is related (thanks for the open thread also): Your Colbert threads address only his criticism of the Administration, and have ignored that half of his speech gored the MSM. This may because you see the MSM as in the pocket of the liberals, but I share the view that, even if many reporters are liberal, MSM reporting is rather spineless and often is slanted in favor of the Administration. James Wood at The New Republic, makes this point:
Was Stephen Colbert funny? No, he was not being funny. He was being ironic, satirical, brutal. Don't you get it? These issues are just too painful for humor. ...

So we have a heaven-made circularity: Colbert, abjuring comedy for bitter irony, attacks the MSM like the bloggers do; the MSM decide not to mention Colbert, or decide that he wasn't funny, or was rude; and the bloggers get to cry foul, charging that this shows, at best, exactly what is wrong with the cloth-eared MSM—or, at worst, that a conspiracy to silence Colbert has begun. At which point the MSM, in their stolid, evenhanded way, write up the "controversy." Who can blame the bloggers? They are right that Colbert was often not trying to be funny, but to be insulting—and there is something breathtakingly, sublimely insulting about the way Colbert, in the midst of his rudeness, continues to use the words "sir" and "Mr. President" not ten feet from the man he is dressing down. And, if they are not right about a conspiracy of silence, they are right about the press's reflexive respect for authority, for only this can explain the chummy way in which, say, The New York Times first reported the event, with its relaxed and relaxing account of the comic genius of Steve Bridges (he was prepped in the White House!).

On this, I'm with the foul-mouthers, the underground men, the crazies, the semi-literates with their paranoid monikers. To anyone schooled in the Hogarthian brutalities of English journalism, U.S. newspapers have an astounding blandness and a sinister reverence for money, celebrity, and the simple authority of renown. Where is the daily political cartoon, or that hygienic invention of Grub Street, the Parliamentary sketch, in which you get to insult both sides of the aisle? What does it say of a newspaper that its most biting writers are those working in the style sections or reviewing films? … His routine was a good, savage op-ed piece. But not in the MSM.
5.15.2006 1:13pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
I thought it was a bit hypocritical of Colbert to criticize the MSM when he also featured clips of Helen Thomas and Dick Gregory asking tough questions at White House press conferences.

As for the view that Colbert should be lionized, see here:
Ladies and Gentlemen, the voting is closed, pencils down, the fat lady she has sung -- pick your metaphor, but the contest for Biggest Cajones in the US has officially gone to Stephen Colbert.
And here:
OMFG. This is the bravest comedy routine in history.
And here:
Stephen Colbert: New American Hero

...How could they not understand they were witnessing one of the bravest, most subversive performances in memory...?

...he spoke truth to power right to the face of the president, in front of the entire news media.
etc.

Were these lefties saying Colbert risked his life or safety to give his speech? Of course not. That's why it's appropriate to use the ridiculous notion that Colbert might have been seized and tortured as satire, to illustrate that what he did was not really all that brave or heroic.
5.15.2006 1:44pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
Sorry, I have to include one more:
Stephen Colbert is our man in Tienamen Square standing in front of those tanks!

Someone online recently posed the question, Where is the Chinese man who stood in front of that line of People’s Army tanks in Tienamen Square? - implying that we need him here in the USA now!

Well, look no further than Stephen Colbert. His act of courage at the White House Correspondents’ dinner was exactly that.
Ahem.
5.15.2006 2:04pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
See also here.
5.15.2006 2:15pm
Big Ben (mail) (www):
Wow. The Tienanmen Square bit is definitely deserving of mockery.

But the others are praising the bravery of his performance as a comedy routine. They're not mistaking Colbert for a Great Hero of Democracy, just admiring a great performance, and there's certainly nothing there implying he should be fearing government retribution.

Still, Colbert pissed off a lot of powerful people with that performance, and that takes courage. I think you've got a pretty strange definition of bravery if you think the word can't be used to describe something that doesn't risk physical harm or incarceration.
I thought it was a bit hypocritical of Colbert to criticize the MSM when he also featured clips of Helen Thomas and Dick Gregory asking tough questions at White House press conferences.
Huh? Even you sometimes praise individual reporters and/or publications while criticizing the MSM in general. While I think both your blame and your praise are often misplaced, I don't think there's anything hypocritical about your believing an industry as a whole to be doing their jobs badly while praising individuals within that industry. Is it hypocrisy to say, for example, that the Mariners suck, but Ichiro is a great baseball player?
5.15.2006 3:38pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
I don't think there's anything hypocritical about your believing an industry as a whole to be doing their jobs badly while praising individuals within that industry.
Sure, but I wonder whether the percentage of tough-on-Bush reporters and journalists isn't higher than Colbert makes it out to be.
5.15.2006 3:42pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
Still, Colbert pissed off a lot of powerful people with that performance, and that takes courage.
A more cynical person might say that "pissing off powerful people" is a sure-fire ticket to success in contemporary America. Michael Moore's entire career (even pre-Bush) is based on it. Plus, you get to look like a brave rebel at no real risk to your own personal welfare, so what's the downside?
5.15.2006 3:47pm
Big Ben (mail) (www):
The downside is that getting invited to perform at that sort of function is an invitation to join the ranks of the established insiders, and he threw their invitation back in their faces. If the MSM is as all-powerful as right-wing bloggers make it out to be, that could have some serious negative effects on his career.

I think it will work out as a net positive for Colbert, because it raises his profile and it really was funny to the sorts of people who are likely to be his audience, but it easily could have backfired if he had been less clever.
5.15.2006 4:38pm
GaijinBiker (mail) (www):
getting invited to perform at that sort of function is an invitation to join the ranks of the established insiders
It says a lot about the news value of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report that you're talking about Colbert as some sort of government or MSM wannabe.

The man is an actor and a comedian. He is not trying to be a bigshot in news journalism, or to score points with Washington politicians. If anything, he would like to join the ranks of Hollywood insiders. A speech like this will certainly help him do that.
5.15.2006 9:05pm
TokyoTom (mail):
GB, your last point is exactly the one that Colbert made in his routine - the MSM that you love to bash essentially has no balls, and love to love the men on power. It says something when the strongest criticism in the "MSM" comes from comedians and arts critics.

Anyway, your effort to deflate the praise for him is another of your transparent efforts to shoot the messenger and ignore the message. Why not join all of those on the right who are jumping from the shipwreck of this admininistration and its policies?
5.16.2006 2:13pm
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